Her Democrat Debate Flip-flop

by Ryan on October 31, 2007

in Election 2008,Media Bias,Politics

First off, I totally agree with Mike’s take on last night’s Democrat Debate.  She Who Must Not Be Named did a horrible job, but still looked more competent than the other lot.  All of them scared me with their defeatism and socialism.  True “Mischief Night” to borrow a phrase from Michelle Malkin’s live-blogging link in the previous post.

A colleague of mine said that he only caught the part of the debate when SWMNBN flip-flopped right before our eyes (she’s horrible when she’s not scripted)!  So, I looked through the transcript and found the following exchange from last night’s debate. NOTE:  I edited it the following passage; check the official thread for the full text.  The bold points are the ones to read.  Also check out this eleven-minute video from the debate to see how it went down (you should fast-forward to exactly 7:00 on the video to see the exchange below):

“RUSSERT:  Senator Clinton, Governor of New York Eliot Spitzer has proposed giving driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.  [You]*** told the Nashua, New Hampshire, Editorial Board it makes a lot of sense. 

Why does it make a lot of sense to give an illegal immigrant a driver’s license?

SWMNBN:  Well, what Governor Spitzer is trying to do is fill the vacuum left by the failure of this administration to bring about comprehensive immigration reform….

RUSSERT:  Does anyone here believe an illegal immigrant should not have a driver’s license? …

DODD:  This is a privilege….  The idea that we’re going to extend this privilege here of a driver’s license I think is troublesome, and I think the American people are reacting to it….  

SWMNBN:  Well, I just want to add, I did not say that it should be done, but I certainly recognize why Governor Spitzer is trying to do…

(UNKNOWN):  Wait a minute…

SWMNBN:  And we have failed.  We have failed.

DODD:  No, no, no.  You said—you said yes…


DODD:  … you thought it made sense to do it.

SWMNBN:  No, I didn’t, Chris.  But the point is, what are we going to do with all these illegal immigrants who are driving…

DODD:  That’s a legitimate issue.  But driver’s license goes too far, in my view.

SWMNBN:  Well, you may say that, but what is the identification?  If somebody runs into you today who is an undocumented worker…

DODD:  There’s ways of dealing with that….

SWMNBN:  Well, what Governor Spitzer has agreed to do is to have three different licenses, one that provides identification for actually going onto airplanes and other kinds of security issues, another which is another ordinary driver’s license, and then a special card that identifies the people who would be on the road, so…

DODD:  That’s a bureaucratic nightmare.

SWMNBN:  … it’s not the full privilege.

RUSSERT:  Senator Clinton, I just want to make sure of what I heard.  Do you, the New York senator, [She Who Must Not Be Named], support the New York governor’s plan to give illegal immigrants a driver’s license?

You told the New Hampshire paper that it made a lot of sense.  Do you support his plan?

SWMNBN:  You know, Tim, this is where everybody plays “gotcha.” It makes a lot of senseWhat is the governor supposed to do?  He is dealing with a serious problems…. (video clip ends, but the transcript continues.)

EDWARDS: …  I want to add something that Chris Dodd just said a minute ago, because I don’t want it to go unnoticed.  Unless I missed something, Senator Clinton said two different things in the course of about two minutes just a few minutes ago.

And I think this is a real issue for the country.  I mean, America is looking for a president who will say the same thing, who will be consistent, who will be straight with them….

WILLIAMS:  Senator Obama, why are you nodding your head?

OBAMA:  Well, I was confused on Senator Clinton’s answer.  I can’t tell whether she was for it or against it.  And I do think that is important.”

So… is this a flip-flop moment?  She tried to get away with a cheap political trick that the Dem crew were not going to let stand at this late date.  This exchange happened after the third commercial break after an evening of taking SWMNBN to task so a tangible testiness was in the air.  I hope that the Republican campaigns use clips like this all next year.  I have no doubt, even though she had a bad night, that she’ll be their nominee, but it’s great to see her stumble when asked real questions.

*** To demonstrate a little media bias: I find it almost humorous that the MSDNC transcript uses the word “he” here when the video clearly shows Russert saying “you.”  That one word is quite important when one thinks about the gravity of her statement and response.  Very, very shady and remarkably transparent move by the MSM!

AP photo.

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Bob November 6, 2007 at 5:21 pm

After watching this clip twice it only demonstrates Mrs. Clinton and her inability to articulate any direction in her messages. The only thing that she does not waiver on is her criticism of the “current administration.” She seems to have forgotten the previous administration and their failures in healthcare, national security, and illegal immigration. This clip should be shown in American classrooms so students can actually see what a lightweight Mrs. Clinton is. When she does not get a batting practice pitch she hardly gets the bat off her shoulder. She truly shows her ineptitude on the issues when asked to defend her positions. Maybe Mrs. Clinton should join George W. Bush in public speaking courses. Shame on her.


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