Reagan’s Case Against National Health Care

by Ryan on February 2, 2009

in Blogs,Economy,Politics,Tyranny

The Mark Levin Radio Show is always a source of conservative thought, argument, and Mark’s thoroughly entertaining quirkiness (“Get off the phone, you big dope!”).   Last Friday evening I had Mark on in the car when the voice of Ronald Reagan emerged.  It took me until just now to track down a copy of that 10-minute speech. 

With the impending confirmation of tax-cheat Tom ”Puff” Daschle to Health and Human Services, the threat of a National Health Care System grows exponentially.  Reagan’s speech (sorry, no video) deals with this issue back in 1961 better than any Republican seemingly could today.  Mark Levin started the excerpt from about 5:30, when it gets out of early-60s politics and into the larger principles Reagan articulates perfectly regarding liberty.  It’s one of the best pro-liberty, anti-NHCS speeches I’ve heard in a long time, and definitely worth a listen:

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John Majka May 18, 2009 at 12:31 pm

Oh really? How about this scenerio:

We get National Health Care.
The bureaucrats in Washington decide that we’re spending too much on health care.
The bureaucrats in Washington decide that we have to cut back.
The bureaucrats in Washington decide that old people, over 85, don’t need health care since they are going to die soon anyway.
The bureaucrats in Washington decide to stop medical care for old people.
The old people die sooner we save money.
We also save money on Social Security payments.
The bureaucrats in Washington decide we need to save more money and lower the old people age to 65.
We save more money on health care and Social Security.
The bureaucrats in Washington decide we need to save more money and lower the old people age to 55.
We save more money.
The bureaucrats in Washing decide we need to save more money and lower to old people age to 45.

Notice that no where in this scenario do we find doctors or patients making health care decisions.

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Jason Nugent July 26, 2009 at 11:45 am

Yes, because it’s so easy to cut ANYTHING (especially medical services) in government because it’s SO politically successful. Government bureaucrats are controlled by politics slightly more so than they are by the insurance companies and that’s why finally we may make a step forward toward nationalizing healthcare. The only good argument I’ve heard in this entire diatribe is that nationalizing health care is a strike against freedom. Yes the freedom for insurance companies to strip this country apart. EVERY OTHER INDUSTRIALIZATION NATION HAS SOME FORM OF HEALTH CARE. We spend more on health care than any other industrial nation per capita, yet we have the worst coverage.

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Newzworth August 4, 2009 at 10:25 am

Jason, the Gov’t will justify cutting services (costs) in the same way they will cut CARBON. Science! Comparative Effectiveness Research is designed to fast track the conclusions in which Gov’t will use to make its Expert Decision on what treatments and diagnostics are worthy or not.

Listen to how Obama frames the debate.. Red Pill vs. Blue Pill. (our doctors are ripping you off). When tough decisions must be made “Experts agree with me” type of nonsense.

We may not have FULL coverage, but we have the BEST CARE. and if you try to bring in biased studies comparing USA to countries with 2-20 million people, save it. they dont keep statistics in with as much accuracy that we do, and NONE of their policies PROVE to be scalable to outfit a country of 300 Million people.

We have healthcare in this country too. Gov’t covers 30% or more of our citizens with VA, Medicaid, Medicare.

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jbk August 8, 2009 at 12:04 pm

THE BEST CARE! Let me guess. You probably have never traveled abroad. How can we put a man on the moon in a matter of years after we said we would and not provide cheaper health care that will not drop you when things go south? I’m sorry if I’m leaning one way, but I’m actually looking for good reasons to oppose the gov’t plan. I will not buy into bullshit marketing from senators or other media outlets, 1961 Regan. I’m looking for facts with sources! And RUSH LIMAUGH is not a source! He is just an opinion. Sources are journals”foreign and national”, University Studies, periodicals, and statical analysis. Furthermore, statics a mathematical practice that uses data that can be applied to both a large and small numbers.

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newzworth@gmail.com August 8, 2009 at 6:38 pm

Ive travelled abroad plenty. from japan to germany to switzerland to canada. Give me the country that you want to prove how UNIVERSAL healthcare is so good. and Ill prove to you how its not as good as you want to believe it is. I’ll also debunk the stats you will use to try and compare a 10 million person country to a 300 million person country.

you dont see a reason to oppose?
1) When Gov’t takes your money, and tell you they are going to make something spectacular with it and solve a huge problem. CITE ME WHEN THEY HAVE SUCCEEDED
2) They are playing a shell game with the terminology differentiating Insurance, Coverage, quality, Access, and cost.
Until you can understand all of these key variable in more, and why you cant toss them all in the air and expect them to fall into place like jenga board, you will continue to believe that if we all have “coverage, well all be happy”.
3) they’ve manipulated the numbers and the context of the data for the talking point 47 MILLION AMERICANS CANT AFFORD INSURANCE. this is a complete fallacy, and until the come clean with the facts, I will not grant them my trust, money, or vote with their “intentions” of how they are going to solve the worlds problems
4) Paying for illegal immigrants when we have our own people, and failing broke systems to provide for. HR 676 clearly states :
1) IN GENERAL- The USNHC Program, through its regional offices, shall pay each institutional provider of care, including hospitals, nursing homes, community or migrant health centers,
Read more: http://mediasplatters.net/2009/08/08/wilkow-majority-millions-illegal-immigrants-will-be-covered-democrats-lie-to-us-hr-676-promises-to-cover-them/#ixzz0NdLUp4LC

I know you believe the media and think that the right is just cock-blocking Obama’s historical endeavor. eventually democrats need to stop trying to “make history” and be respectable and competent legislators who show good stewardship with our money and our constitution

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Mike August 14, 2009 at 11:56 pm

Most of you are really missing the point of this speech. Its not about whether or not a government run plan will work, that is not the question at issue. The question at issue is do we want the government to take on this role? If you answer yes, you are not a socialist, but you are allowing the government to take that necessary step towards socialism. He stresses this so much because Reagan understood that once government took a step out, it could not go back. If you are willing to give up freedoms to make your health care cost less than you are not an American. This is about keeping the people in charge, not some government bureaucracy. Stop being so stupid.

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Newzworth August 15, 2009 at 12:10 am

@mike – im behind you 100%. I find that this plan can be defeated 2 ways. execution & Constitution. By no means do I think General welfare, commerce clause, equal rights, or any other constitutional attempt to justify this agenda is right.

But when going fact to fact, I just as soon take it out using the same guns. Constitutionality means nothing to liberal progressives. .

But I totally agree w/ you

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RT February 2, 2010 at 9:44 pm

People in charge (in our version of capitalism) leaves millions without access to health care. People in charge continues the skyrocketing costs of health insurance. People in charge take my parents from a 7 figure savings to nearly nearly destitute and unable to pay for their nursing home stays. Please tell me the answer, because ‘business as usual’ is not working. I have not heard the Republican party’s offer to cover 100% of American citizens, and keep costs down. Please direct me to the answer. If you cannot, please stop blocking someone elses answer to the problem.

Originally Posted By MikeMost of you are really missing the point of this speech. Its not about whether or not a government run plan will work, that is not the question at issue. The question at issue is do we want the government to take on this role? If you answer yes, you are not a socialist, but you are allowing the government to take that necessary step towards socialism. He stresses this so much because Reagan understood that once government took a step out, it could not go back. If you are willing to give up freedoms to make your health care cost less than you are not an American. This is about keeping the people in charge, not some government bureaucracy. Stop being so stupid.

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DAve March 18, 2010 at 7:42 pm

You mean blocking someones ability to steal from some citizens and give to others? If you want to talk about blocking, lets honestly talk about it. Liberals have blocked for decades any attempt to reform healthcare with open market solutions. Most of the high costs of it can be traced to liberal ideals as well. They have always bloacked ANy reform that doesnt include govt takeover. Wether is cocial security, medicare, the tax code, etc….they block it all. They are the true Party of Nio.

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