Groundwork Laid for Obama’s Civilian Army?

by Sal on February 18, 2009

in Politics

Just after the election, it was reported by many in the blogsophere, including here at AOR, that Obama was planning to establish a domestic civilian defense force.  Some are now suggesting that the groundwork for this civilian army has been laid in a new directive (PDF) issued by the Department of Defense on January 23 (three days after Obama’s Inauguration), replacing a previous directive (PDF) from 1992 regarding use of civilian personnel.

Members of the DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce shall be organized, trained, cleared, equipped, and ready to deploy in support of combat operations by the military; contingencies; emergency operations; humanitarian missions; disaster relief; restoration of order; drug interdiction; and stability operations of the Department of Defense in accordance with DoDD 3000.05…

Doug Ross points out that the old directive was very specific as to deal with civilian personnel deployed overseas, and mentions the term “overseas” 33 times.  The new directive does not mention the word “overseas” a single time.  Additionally, the new directive includes objectives for the civilian defense force such as “restoration of order” and “stability operations” as highlighted above.

As I mentioned in my original post on this subject, I am not one that normally buys into conspiracy theories.  Yet there is nothing that says that what has happened in other countries around the world couldn’t happen here under the right conditions.  What often starts off as well-meaning can easily end up as abuse of power.  If Obama is sincere about using a civilian force for civil service, or even for national security, the temptation would be there to use it for other things, which Posse Comitatus envisioned and was enacted to combat. Obviously much more would need to be done before such a force were to be established, but this may lay the groundwork for the establishment of such a force outside the legislative process.

This could very well be nothing, but it is curious that such a dramatic change in regulations occurred so early in the Obama administration after talk in November by Rahm Emmanuel and others about a civilian defense force.  We already know that the left wants to stifle the free exchange of ideas and silence the opposition.  The queston is, are they serious about instituting a Marxist, civilian, domestic force to be used to restore order and provide stability operations, or is this just a simple rewording of the regulation for overseas use?  If so, why remove the word “overseas” from the original language?

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Ed Darrell January 3, 2010 at 2:45 pm

Oh, yeah, only Democrat presidents instituted the draft, unless we count Eisenhower to wrap up Korea (draft was still in effect from WWII), for the start of Vietnam in 1954, and saying “instituted” leaves out Nixon and Ford. Saying “in the last 110 years” leaves out Lincoln.

Martin, you note that our military forces are composed of civilians who volunteered, and then you say you’ll oppose “civilian security forces” in your area. Did you mean to imply as you did that you oppose the U.S. armed forces? Or did your brains suddenly shut down, and you accepted the bizarre and false claim that there are plans for a different kind of military inside the U.S.? You almost sounded rational there for a moment.

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DJF July 20, 2010 at 8:12 pm

@Ed Darrell – I SUGGEST THAT YOU ALL READ BILL AYERS SPEECH OF JUNE 18, 1969. YOU CAN FIND IT @ http://WWW.ARCHIVE.ORG ENTITILED: You Don’t Need A Weatherman To Know Which Way The Wind Blows

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Mil L August 1, 2010 at 5:11 pm

What a DUMB article! Nobody is suggesting some urban “civilian army”, whoever wrote this is as ignorant as a box of rocks!

IDIOTS!

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Mil L August 1, 2010 at 5:14 pm

@Martin Fee
Exactly! Obama would never propose such a “civilan” force, so it shows how weak some people are into believing “lies” made up by the uneducated. Obama has been excellent in restoring freedom to ALL Americans, so we need to champion that…

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Mil L August 1, 2010 at 5:15 pm

@Patrick Hynes – Quit being a moron, thanks!

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Mil L August 1, 2010 at 5:16 pm

@Robbins Mitchell – Your comment made no sense, Hitler is dead, check the news! Why did you post such ignorance?

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Mil L August 1, 2010 at 5:23 pm

@OLDPUPPYMAX – But nobody is suggesting taking away any firearms, so it seems like you need to see a Doctor and get on “medication”… nobody in America is going to take away your play toy guns! You just suffer from low self-worth. Except for sport hunting, gun is only used by weak people don’t forget!

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Mil L August 1, 2010 at 5:25 pm

@Sal – But check those “news sources”, they aren’t real, they are just hate filled naked men hiding behind small penises. That’s why everyone here is laughing at them.

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Mil L August 1, 2010 at 5:30 pm

@nancy – Nancy, quit being insane… your comment was that of a lunatic. Nobody is proposing taking away even a single gun. Guns are for weak people, the poorly educated, we all agree with that. If you aren’t smart, then yes! A gun will be great for causing harm your family or your local society! Good luck!

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Mil L August 1, 2010 at 5:35 pm

@1Patriot – Please don’t post ignorant comments on this forum, you should re-read what you wrote, it was like someone that is an uneducated lunatic! See a Doctor, you suffer from “paranoid schizophrenia”, trust me… NOBODY is out to “get you”.

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Mil L August 1, 2010 at 5:40 pm

@missi – But Obama has never suggested anything like a “youth squad”, so you didn’t check facts, that’s why everyone here is laughing at you.

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Mile L August 1, 2010 at 5:45 pm

@Ellen – Ellen, see a Psychiatrist! Your comment was insane… the “Masons” are out to get you? Hilarious!

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Mile L August 1, 2010 at 5:55 pm

@Andy from the UK. – But your understanding of US Gov is poor, Eric Holder has no say in a Bill like this, nobody in America would ever support taking away any “guns”. Americans simply LAUGH at people that think they need them, they are seen as our “poor, uneducated and weak” by the educated. We see them as “educational cleansing” in areas like the South and people who live in trailer parks.

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Mile L August 1, 2010 at 6:00 pm

@Larry J. – Your comment made ZERO sense, Obama has been wonderful for America, and there is no sense he would ever make a move towards socialism. So please learn to check facts before you post here. WE are tired of morons.

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Jon September 8, 2010 at 3:13 pm

Obama sucks. Period. And, he is trying to take away our guns by signing the small arms treaty. He also has reported Arizona to the human rights commission at the UN. Unbelievable.

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ROBERT October 21, 2010 at 8:24 pm

@Mil L – IF YOU TRUST WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING , THEN YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT ALL DICTATORS START OFF BY FIRST GETTING THE PEOPLE TO LOVE THEM , TO TRUST THEM, PROMISING “A NEW AND BETTER COUNTRY ,AND A BETTER WAY TO LIVE. THE LAST ADMINISTATION WAS THE PROBLEM…”AND SO ON…UNTIL IT’S TOO LATE. PERFECT EXAMPLES TO READ UP ON =GERMANY -HITLER AND THE NAZI PARTY; RUSSIA-JOSEPH STALIN AND HIS COMMUNIST PARTY; CAMBODIA-POL POT AND HIS REGEME…THEY ALL RULED WITH AN IRON HAND AND BROUGHT NOTHING BUT POVERTY AND DEGRADATION TO THE PEOPLE. ALL OF WHICH HAD TO HAVE OUTSIDE HELP TO BE BROUGHT TO AN END WITH A MASSIVE BODY COUNT LEFT BEHIND. IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT THEN GO BACK TO SLEEP…HOWEVER , I SAY QUESTION THE GOVERNMENT ,CRITICIZE THEM WHEN THEY’RE WRONG, AND RESIST THEM WHEN THEY TRY TO CONTROL YOU AND TAKE YOUR FREEDOM FROM YOU! REVOLUTION IS NOT NECESSARILY EVIL OR CRAZY IF IT’S VITAL TO THE GREATER GOOD OF THE PEOPLE. “WE” ARE THE PEOPLE.

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Mark August 9, 2011 at 2:57 am

Originally Posted By Mil L@OLDPUPPYMAX – But nobody is suggesting taking away any firearms, so it seems like you need to see a Doctor and get on “medication”… nobody in America is going to take away your play toy guns! You just suffer from low self-worth. Except for sport hunting, gun is only used by weak people don’t forget!

I take exception to your comments on gun owners. I own guns and they have never hurt anyone. I am not weak, nor do I have a diminished sense of self-worth. I keep guns for two reasons: hunting and (god forbid) defense of myself and my loved-ones in case of violence against us.

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J September 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm

Originally Posted By Larry J.What radical man has he appointed? You have GOT to be kidding!!! One of his appoinitees is an avowed communist and the science “czar” believes animals and even PLANTS have rights! Why do people keep defending this madman? Obama is trying to “remake” America into a socalist nation. Wake up and smell the coffee!!

God forbid we have a person in power who believe there are things that have worth other than money! I think someone who doesn’t believe animals have rights is way more dangerous than a man who does. Just because that might mean your right to exercise your greed might diminish a bit doesn’t mean this is a dangerous idea, you fool.

Why is socialism so scary? Because you won’t be able to exploit the poor in the name of ‘capitalism’ and continue on this dog-eat-dog mentality that has characterized America since the industrial revolution, only to be exacerbated grossly by the technological revolution?

There are no arguments here. Just an occasional mention of ‘socialists’, ‘communists’, ‘Hitler’, ‘Marxism’ – buzzwords that incite an emotional reaction in those who ALREADY share your views, that only serve to make their convictions stronger while not really knowing the long-term implications of holding this view. Isn’t that what conservatives accuse liberals of? Filthy hypocrites.

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