Comments on: The $1 Trillion Health Care Debacle http://axisofright.com/2009/07/15/the-1-trillion-health-care-debacle/ Conservative Politics, Religion, Culture, and Anything Else Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:02:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Moogie Phttp://axisofright.com/2009/07/15/the-1-trillion-health-care-debacle/comment-page-1/#comment-27483 Moogie P Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:33:52 +0000 http://axisofright.com/?p=6577#comment-27483 How best shall we go about demanding that Congress cancel its own current health care plan and enroll in GuvCare? That might scare them out of enacting it.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('27483','Moogie P'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27483','Moogie P','How best shall we go about demanding that Congress cancel its own current health care plan and enroll in GuvCare? That might scare them out of enacting it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> How best shall we go about demanding that Congress cancel its own current health care plan and enroll in GuvCare? That might scare them out of enacting it.
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]]> By: Ryanhttp://axisofright.com/2009/07/15/the-1-trillion-health-care-debacle/comment-page-1/#comment-27472 Ryan Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:27:59 +0000 http://axisofright.com/?p=6577#comment-27472 If this passes, the only way to keep the National Health Service in tact will be to raid the Social Security trust fund -- but that's after the rich-tax spreads to the not-so-rich, a VAT on goods and services, and the transfer our employers make from their current system to the cheaper, government-run one. It's like watching a train-wreck in slow motion.Part of me (a small part) isn't too too worried about this, even if something passes. It is completely unsustainable economically and eventually politically. Some polls are beginning to reflect that. Like Margaret Thatcher said: the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. The part that worries me, however, is how we're going to get out of this mess, should something pass. Rolling back the government will happen in due time when the pendulum swings back (maybe by 2011 -- fingers crossed), but that transition will be a dozen times uglier than what we're experiencing now -- we as a nation haven't started paying back the new bills yet.The previously "worst recession since the Great Depression" was when Reagan and the supply-siders tried to exorcize the inflationary demons of Keynesian Carterism on the US economy. We got out of it and into prosperity, but with lots of pain at first. Obama wants this now because we haven't felt what it's going to be like to pay back the bill on his spending yet. He knows it will hurt us terribly economically, yet he's trying to do it anyway.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('27472','Ryan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27472','Ryan','If this passes, the only way to keep the National Health Service in tact will be to raid the Social Security trust fund -- but that\'s after the rich-tax spreads to the not-so-rich, a VAT on goods and services, and the transfer our employers make from their current system to the cheaper, government-run one. It\'s like watching a train-wreck in slow motion.\r\n\r\nPart of me (a small part) isn\'t too too worried about this, even if something passes. It is completely unsustainable economically and eventually politically. Some polls are beginning to reflect that. Like Margaret Thatcher said: the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people\'s money. The part that worries me, however, is how we\'re going to get out of this mess, should something pass. Rolling back the government will happen in due time when the pendulum swings back (maybe by 2011 -- fingers crossed), but that transition will be a dozen times uglier than what we\'re experiencing now -- we as a nation haven\'t started paying back the new bills yet.\r\n\r\nThe previously \"worst recession since the Great Depression\" was when Reagan and the supply-siders tried to exorcize the inflationary demons of Keynesian Carterism on the US economy. We got out of it and into prosperity, but with lots of pain at first. Obama wants this now because we haven\'t felt what it\'s going to be like to pay back the bill on his spending yet. He knows it will hurt us terribly economically, yet he\'s trying to do it anyway.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> If this passes, the only way to keep the National Health Service in tact will be to raid the Social Security trust fund — but that’s after the rich-tax spreads to the not-so-rich, a VAT on goods and services, and the transfer our employers make from their current system to the cheaper, government-run one. It’s like watching a train-wreck in slow motion.

Part of me (a small part) isn’t too too worried about this, even if something passes. It is completely unsustainable economically and eventually politically. Some polls are beginning to reflect that. Like Margaret Thatcher said: the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money. The part that worries me, however, is how we’re going to get out of this mess, should something pass. Rolling back the government will happen in due time when the pendulum swings back (maybe by 2011 — fingers crossed), but that transition will be a dozen times uglier than what we’re experiencing now — we as a nation haven’t started paying back the new bills yet.

The previously “worst recession since the Great Depression” was when Reagan and the supply-siders tried to exorcize the inflationary demons of Keynesian Carterism on the US economy. We got out of it and into prosperity, but with lots of pain at first. Obama wants this now because we haven’t felt what it’s going to be like to pay back the bill on his spending yet. He knows it will hurt us terribly economically, yet he’s trying to do it anyway.

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